Those meetings would be done at the offices of CEP, where, basically, the clients would be given a further presentation. At that point they would be told about the potential for investment with Pinnacle, and then they could make a decision as to whether they wanted to do business or not.
Q. Who would conduct these private meetings at the offices of CEP?
A. Most of the time those were conducted by Bryan Noel.
Q. Anybody else?
A. Yes, there were.
Q. Who else?
A. Some of the other sales staff would be involved with those meetings as well, and I would be present for some of the meetings in a support role.
Q. What do you mean you were there in a support role?
A. For clients that may have had questions about the strategy, the trading strategy, I would be available to answer those questions.
Q. And did you at times meet with clients?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you tell them about the stock-trading program?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you ever have clients come up to your office and look at your trading system?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you ever meet with clients in these private consultations by yourself?
A. The initial consultations?
Q. Right.
A. No, I did not.
Q. Why not?
A. It was necessary to have somebody that could put together the full estate plan. Basically, what I knew about their estate plan would be the taxation aspect as well as the trading aspect.
Q. In 2004, even in late 2004, are you conducting private client consultations for potential investors in CEP?
A. There were some contacts that I had with clients, but at that point it would typically involve the sales staff making presentations to them.
Q. In 2005, are you doing private consultations with potential CEP clients?
A. In 2005, there were one or two clients that were referrals from existing clients that I did have initial contact with, but I did not have contact with new clients that were coming in without any familiarity with the business.
WELLS
In past times, water wells served a multitude of societal purposes and were of significant importance. As an example, after over two hundred years, the old well at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill holds a place of prominence and esteem for faculty, students and alumni. Pictures dating from over a hundred years old to today show people standing, socializing and interacting with one another at the old well site.
Aside from the obvious functioning of a well—a source of water—it also operated as the information-exchange device of the day. People of the time could meet face to face, barter, buy, sell, exchange news and information, and interact as members of a society. In the Bible, John 4, there is a classic example of the multi-functionality of a well through which we can examine the actions of Alex and his partner to obtain investors:
John 4: “So He came to a city of Samaria called Sychar, near the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph; 6 and Jacob’s well was there. So Jesus, being wearied from His journey, was sitting thus by the well. It was about the sixth hour.
7 There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give Me a drink.” 8 For His disciples had gone away into the city to buy food. 9 Therefore the Samaritan woman said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask me for a drink since I am a Samaritan woman?” (For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.” 11 She said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with and the well is deep; where then do You get that living water? 12 You are not greater than our father Jacob, are You, who gave us the well, and drank of it himself and his sons and his cattle?” 13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again; 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall
Q. Who would conduct these private meetings at the offices of CEP?
A. Most of the time those were conducted by Bryan Noel.
Q. Anybody else?
A. Yes, there were.
Q. Who else?
A. Some of the other sales staff would be involved with those meetings as well, and I would be present for some of the meetings in a support role.
Q. What do you mean you were there in a support role?
A. For clients that may have had questions about the strategy, the trading strategy, I would be available to answer those questions.
Q. And did you at times meet with clients?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you tell them about the stock-trading program?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you ever have clients come up to your office and look at your trading system?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you ever meet with clients in these private consultations by yourself?
A. The initial consultations?
Q. Right.
A. No, I did not.
Q. Why not?
A. It was necessary to have somebody that could put together the full estate plan. Basically, what I knew about their estate plan would be the taxation aspect as well as the trading aspect.
Q. In 2004, even in late 2004, are you conducting private client consultations for potential investors in CEP?
A. There were some contacts that I had with clients, but at that point it would typically involve the sales staff making presentations to them.
Q. In 2005, are you doing private consultations with potential CEP clients?
A. In 2005, there were one or two clients that were referrals from existing clients that I did have initial contact with, but I did not have contact with new clients that were coming in without any familiarity with the business.
WELLS
In past times, water wells served a multitude of societal purposes and were of significant importance. As an example, after over two hundred years, the old well at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill holds a place of prominence and esteem for faculty, students and alumni. Pictures dating from over a hundred years old to today show people standing, socializing and interacting with one another at the old well site.
Aside from the obvious functioning of a well—a source of water—it also operated as the information-exchange device of the day. People of the time could meet face to face, barter, buy, sell, exchange news and information, and interact as members of a society. In the Bible, John 4, there is a classic example of the multi-functionality of a well through which we can examine the actions of Alex and his partner to obtain investors:
John 4: “So He came to a city of Samaria called Sychar, near the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph; 6 and Jacob’s well was there. So Jesus, being wearied from His journey, was sitting thus by the well. It was about the sixth hour.
7 There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give Me a drink.” 8 For His disciples had gone away into the city to buy food. 9 Therefore the Samaritan woman said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask me for a drink since I am a Samaritan woman?” (For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.” 11 She said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with and the well is deep; where then do You get that living water? 12 You are not greater than our father Jacob, are You, who gave us the well, and drank of it himself and his sons and his cattle?” 13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again; 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall
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